From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4XvMn7QQudwuCq-3cSOnqK_gBoHnmblv2--PKi2oupbCsZwaxxrzA2Chwb6LEzzg1TYjAJNboC8lwPgw8VA5IhYUBs-Jly9HfTqPtsgZUHg=@protonmail.com> <01502186-69cb-86fb-612e-868068e7a998@yandex.ru> <6e2c9c07-31c4-38eb-c679-7e680f9f02ed@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="113193"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, ndame@protonmail.com To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 06:46:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBxT-000TK1-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 06:46:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBxS-0005Cm-Jw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwp-0004Lm-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwo-0006oC-B3; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwl-0006db-68; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Tue, 05 May 2020 16:08:58 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249068 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It is just that sometimes, in everyday speech we don't always use > official, full, long names for stuff Since "free software" is only two charactes longer than "open source", how about making the effort to acquire that habit? It will help our cause, and once you learn the habit, you will hardly mind those extra characters. > say Linux even when we mean GNU/Linux, just as we don't always say > Microsoft Windows but just Windows, or Apple OSX but just OSX etc. They are similar in being shortenings, but there is a crucial difference. Saying just "Windows" does not lead to forgetting that it comes from Microsoft. Saying just "OSX" does not lead to forgetting that it comes from Apple. There is no reason to make an effort to avoid those shortenings. But saying just "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux" misrepresents who developed it. That hampers what the GNU Project can achieve. So how about making the effort to avoid that particular shortening? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)