From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 00:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="110979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, pcr910303@icloud.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 06:46:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBws-000Sl7-KW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 06:46:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwr-0004L3-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:46:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwI-0003tg-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:45:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwH-0006Ju-4W; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:45:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jWBwF-0006XV-Vz; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:45:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 5 May 2020 18:20:05 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249067 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I don't think we should distribute or recommend s.el in any way. It would be self-defeating to do that. This is not a moral issue. s.el is free software; it is not evil. But we have to exercize good technical judgment as well as moral judgment. We don't want people to make their Emacs Lisp code depend on s.el, because that would not fit into Emacs well. So we should avoid encouraging making Emacs Lisp code depend on s.el. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)