From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Bringing GNU Emacs to Native Code" at the European Lisp Symposium Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 22:56:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <69d8b48d-bd09-41c1-a89d-ed76fe0284a4@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="26764"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: akrl@sdf.org, stefan@marxist.se, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 05 04:57:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVnlq-0006pF-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 04:57:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56792 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVnlp-0005kb-PS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVnl4-00051o-Mz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:56:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVnl4-0007VS-BQ; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:56:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVnl3-0006wn-A9; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:56:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 04 May 2020 01:17:02 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248936 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I go a little step further: while it's good if someone does it (and > > > I think that it will likely come almost for free at some point), > > > I don't think it's necessary to do it eventually. > > It is sloppy to leave part of the job unfinished. > > We should finish the job. > We're talking about optimizing code: i.e., a job that can never be finished. We're talking about implementing support, in the compilation package, for the mode of operation which most Emacs code uses. You may wish to deprecate that mode, but unless we do that soon, it is no reason to leave that mode unsupported. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)