From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ftchy0go.fsf@gnus.org> <877dxtxwms.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="104880"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 05:14:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRZ1-000RAN-TW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 05:14:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRZ0-0008LR-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38206) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXp-0006dx-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXo-0000Lb-Sr; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXl-0000P7-4u; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877dxtxwms.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 03 May 2020 10:15:07 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248779 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It's understandable for people to want to port over idioms they are > familiar with from other programming languages, but it would (usually) > be a mistake to incorporate them into the language. s.el is "let's > pretend Emacs Lisp is Javascript and/or Clojure"; Emacs Lisp can be improved, and we may have found some good renamings of string and regexp functions in this discussion. However, mimicking Javascript or Clojure is a misguided goal. We don't want new functions or new names for that. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)