From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4XvMn7QQudwuCq-3cSOnqK_gBoHnmblv2--PKi2oupbCsZwaxxrzA2Chwb6LEzzg1TYjAJNboC8lwPgw8VA5IhYUBs-Jly9HfTqPtsgZUHg=@protonmail.com> <01502186-69cb-86fb-612e-868068e7a998@yandex.ru> <6e2c9c07-31c4-38eb-c679-7e680f9f02ed@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="71406"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ndame@protonmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 05:06:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRQj-000ITY-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 05:06:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42964 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRQi-0003Dw-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRPx-0001qw-7E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRPv-0001VC-Ez; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRPh-0006Qz-Hp; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Sat, 02 May 2020 20:55:33 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248763 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Seems > like world has realized power of open source, which is great. If people have realized the usefulness of the existing free programs, that is good. If people realize the value of the _freedom_ that free software gives, and learn to demand this freedom, that would be GREAT. Using the term "open source" tends to cover up that crucial point. For the free software movement, that is self-defeating. So please let's make an effort to call our work "free", "libre", or both -- not "open". See https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html for more explanation of the difference between free software and open source. See also https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-meme-hustler for Evgeny Morozov's article on the same point. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)