From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="12167"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, adam@alphapapa.net, eliz@gnu.org, kyle@kyleam.com To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 30 04:31:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTyzS-00033B-Rg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 04:31:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35276 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTyzR-0006tP-Sj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40548) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTyyV-0004zC-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTyyV-0002XB-21; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jTyyO-0000G6-NX; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:30:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Philippe Vaucher on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:50:08 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248205 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The names assoc, assq, rassoc and rassq come from old Lisp tradition. Maclisp used them in the 1970s. I would guess they go back to 1960. If I had changed them in 1984 when writing Emacs Lisp, I would have been throwing away my tradition and making Emacs strange to Lisp hackers. > named logically (nth, remove, append), sometimes named after implementation Those are also part of old Lisp tradition. > detail (car, cdr), Those two functions are among the first Lisp functions ever defined and named, in 1958 I think. Along with 'cons' and 'eq'. Lisp has a deep history and culture, and replacing the traditional names names would be as intolerable as reforming English to phonetic spelling. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)