From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:51:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200426172206.GC18629@ACM> <87y2qhnc9a.fsf@gmail.com> <20200427102311.GA4976@ACM> <87mu6xtano.fsf@gmail.com> <87k120ohsq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="58747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 04:51:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGLf-000FBu-9s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 04:51:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40258 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGLe-0005Dd-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGL5-0004Iz-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGL4-0004KB-MZ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGL0-0006xv-GX; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:51:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k120ohsq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:30:13 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247985 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > There are many things that are frustrating in org-mode. > Many Emacs features are disabled in org-mode, and > standard keys are redefined to behave in own way. I am not familiar with these aspects of Org mode, but it seems to me that part of integrating the subsystems of Org mode better into Emacs is to eliminate these little superficial incompatibilities from them. There could be a separae mode, perhaps a minor mode, to make these superficial modofications, so Org mode devotees would still find it easy to have them. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)