From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:14:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mu78huhx.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k12bdgx7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1wi7a8o.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdteybt.fsf@runbox.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="50214"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, seb@k-7.ch, simenheg@runbox.com To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 05:15:35 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jR5rK-000CwB-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:15:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40250 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR5rJ-0001la-Be for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR5qP-000095-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:14:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR5qN-0003ZN-Gd; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jR5qK-0001RT-Q7; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:14:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Yuan Fu on Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:36:50 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247485 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >> For the record, I have a proof-of-concept package for GNU ELPA which > >> I call `gnu-elpa` and which just adds "most" of the autoloads found in > >> GNU ELPA packages (along with the corresponding changes to > >> `auto-mode-alist`), such that `M-x eglot` or opening a smalltalk file > >> will prompt the user if they want to install the corresponding package. It is ok to do this with GNU ELPA, because we could move those packages into the Emacs distribution if that ever seems advantageous for any reason. We don't have an essential need to make a distinction between the packages in GNU ELPA and the ones in the Emacs distinction itself. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)