From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:51:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83209"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: me@enzu.ru, joseph.h.garvin@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, ndame@protonmail.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 03:54:53 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi7h-000LXG-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:54:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46260 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi7f-0000Cj-EZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:54:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi45-0003Kc-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60262) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi45-0001oR-5x; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi44-0003eV-0u; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:51:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:07:28 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247439 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That statement may be correct, but you've changed the topic. > Did I? > The topic was Emacs's popularity, AFAICT. Yes. I want Emacs to become once again popular for editing text for publication, as it was before. More than that, I want to use it myself that way. > As a word processor, it's a lot less capable, and adding the two > features you mentioned above won't bring us much closer to that goal, A long journey has to be achieved step by step. Since 1990 I have planned to extend Emacs to do word processing. If that doesn't interest you, you don't have to help, but please don't get in the way. > And there are existing Free programs > that do this better already (like LibreOffice Writer). I use LibreOffice. It works, but I very much miss the fundamental capabilities of Emacs. I want to do word processing in Emacs and program commands in Emacs Lisp. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)