From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:47:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <875zdv9jf3.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="59979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bob Newell Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 03:49:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi2C-000FTz-S8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:49:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi2B-0007kO-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi0Y-0005pA-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi0X-0004Ec-Pm; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:47:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jQi0V-000320-Sf; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:47:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Bob Newell on Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:34:57 -1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247435 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Yes, make Emacs appealing and user friendly. But don't forget that a > masterful tool in the end requires mastery, which can't come for free. > I certainly draw the line at saying Emacs is for everyone. I'm not > saying it's only for some sort of snooty "elite" but I am saying that > it's for those who are willing to learn, seeing some extra work as the > aforementioned long-term investment, and who have the patience reach a > worthy goal a little later rather than right this very minute. +1. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)