From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:25:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> <83zhbcg6s4.fsf@gnu.org> <833694f29y.fsf@gnu.org> <4amRIW9fznS6sa3th4xPABzua9LQDlNPeIFxVsGYdq_wsg4-Ea1l9sEP-T6QrnO5QMV3jhgrnAspk2mSIC7COlodqr04koAcIPYPLLmPHFM=@protonmail.com> <83imhzecc5.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="85815"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yandros@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: ndame Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 04:26:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jPGhg-000MET-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:26:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPGhf-000108-M4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39812) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPGhD-0000Zf-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:25:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPGhC-0006Xa-Jz; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jPGhA-0003hb-Rm; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:25:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from ndame on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:52:09 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247143 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It could improve appearance quite a lot if someone with a feel for graphical > design took a look at faces and created some more modern looking defaults. It was very hard to work out a set of default faces that worked reasonably. We had to make change after change till everyone was happy with it. I think that the help of a graphics UI designer could enable us to make an improvement _if_ perse is capable of working within the constraints that we face. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)