From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows and MacOS and emacs.html Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:13:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tv1ukcvw.fsf@oitofelix.com> <87sghdgurh.fsf@gnu.org> <871rosgj1s.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="76877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: oitofelix@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 14 04:13:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jOB55-000Jud-Vi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 04:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOB55-0001Ek-0n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOB4S-0000d4-Qu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOB4S-0007q4-Hs; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:13:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jOB4R-0003cN-B6; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:13:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 13 Apr 2020 07:39:58 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246920 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > While we're at it, perhaps this sentence could be clarified: "We > include support for some proprietary systems in GNU Emacs in the hope > that running Emacs on them will give users a taste of freedom and thus > lead them to free themselves." > I suggest: "... will give users a taste of freedom and thus lead them > to start using a free operating system." This change is a step forward at one level and a step backward at another level. The step forward is to clearly state the most specific thing we encourage the reader to do: switch to a free operating system. The step backward is to exclude the broad range of other things that we also encourage the reader to do. Would you like to aim to make the step forward without the step back? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)