From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, eliz@gnu.org, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 22:36:24 -0400 [thread overview] Message-ID: <E1jLHce-00059L-9C@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200405111623.GB5049@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 5 Apr 2020 11:16:23 +0000) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > This assumption proved to be very problematic. > > Problematic for whom? > Well, for me for a start. If it causes a problem only for you personally as a maintainer, I am sure we could find a way to spare you from spending time on this. But I think we are miscommunicating over this. I understood you to mean "problematic for some people who are doing some kinds of things with Emacs", so I would like to know what kinds of things they are. The answer that is crucial for deciding whether this problem ought to have been "fixed" or not. But is that what you meant? Or did you mean something else? I get the impression that your analysis of the issue is based on assuming that open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start defaults to t. What if it defaulted to nil? Would that eliminate the problem you're concerned about? I think so. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38 ` rrandresf
2020-03-27 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 9:21 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28 9:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08 ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15 ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15 ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42 ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13 ` David Engster
2020-04-01 1:02 ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04 ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03 6:59 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 8:54 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 0:07 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 1:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23 ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15 ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 4:03 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 8:56 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 2:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 17:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2020-04-08 2:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10 3:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-16 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-19 18:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 23:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 13:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 20:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 20:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 21:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-21 1:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 3:41 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-07 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-08 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-06 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-06 17:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-04-08 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-04-20 19:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
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