From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pull requests Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:39:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mu87ji39.fsf@dick> <87v9mvp2ms.fsf@blind.guru> <87d093f6lj.fsf@dick> <87369yc79r.fsf@dick> <83mu828c7d.fsf@gnu.org> <7b0e82fd-8928-26d2-4bed-331593685f36@gmail.com> <83h7ya7wne.fsf@gnu.org> <8b7d5a28-8193-cd12-bb47-b70c7eee6db5@gmail.com> <83eetd962o.fsf@gnu.org> <281f88c3-ea09-3486-5532-5084881bf38b@yandex.ru> <4ceaa8ac-9a19-d874-51d6-8056bcb46b2c@yandex.ru> <5A67FEE6-0B25-4D4E-BADA-8653682F7565@gnu.org> <83a73y3s18.fsf@gnu.org> <831rpa3p9w.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo713ldv.fsf@gnu.org> <9aa9383c-9706-8250-eccd-7cacc298e8af@yandex.ru> <83r1x93ju1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="112139"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 04:40:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jJpmZ-000T4e-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:40:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60864 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJpmY-0000p5-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJpl5-00009b-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJpl5-0008SC-Fl; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jJpl3-0003SY-AK; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:39:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83r1x93ju1.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 30 Mar 2020 19:09:58 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246234 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I have never seen what a pull request is like to use. I do not use the systems which support them. In trying to think about their implications, I have to go by the descriptions people have sent me in this discussion. Unfortunately, the descriptions I've reaceived seen to conflict. Perhaps people were describing different ways that different projects or different platforms handle pull requests, but I did not know that when I read them. Also, they are written to be read by people who have used pull requests and basically understand them, which I do not. As a result, I have trouble making sense of them. I want to make sure we avoid results that would undermine the GNU Project's moral and political position. For instance, the result of distributing something that we say is an injustice and should not exist at all. Just what is required for this, in practical terms, depends on how we would implement the pull requests. Some methods don't have a problem; some do. Could people figure out which different approaches they are considering, then tell me how those approaches work? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)