From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: On elisp running native
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:17:57 -0500 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <83sgl6p1xa.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:12:33 +0200)
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> This means it's GCC-specific, and moreover requires native support for
> loading ELF objects, right? Which means it will probably run well
> only on GNU/Linux and maybe the *BSD systems.
In principle there is nothing wrong with that. The main purpose of
every GNU package is to make the GNU system better. We cooperate with
support for other systems when that is not difficult, as long as
someone chooses to do the work. But we should not reject a useful
feature simply because it can't be (or hasn't been) implemented on
a non-GNU system.
However, I have doubts that compiling Elisp into machine code is worth
the trouble. And I think it is likely to be fragile. The option
exists of writing C code by hand. Compiling the Elisp code would be
quicker and avoid errors, but will that savings be realized enough
times to justify the time used for developing and maintaining the
compiler? I tend to doubt it.
How about compiling Elisp code into C? That should be a lot less work,
and it might be useful in other ways too.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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2019-11-28 6:54 On elisp running native Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 11:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-28 14:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-28 20:15 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 6:03 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2019-11-28 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-28 17:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-28 22:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 0:20 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-11-29 14:59 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 10:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-01 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:43 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-08 20:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 13:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-26 18:14 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-26 22:10 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-27 10:46 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 1:17 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2019-12-28 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 8:17 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-29 0:08 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-29 9:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 13:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-28 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 19:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-12-29 19:59 ` chad
2019-12-30 8:17 ` arthur miller
2019-12-30 14:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-30 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 22:03 ` arthur miller
2019-12-31 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-30 14:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-30 8:47 ` Achim Gratz
2019-12-27 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-27 21:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-28 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 8:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 11:57 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 14:35 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 22:13 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 9:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-24 23:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-25 6:14 ` yyoncho
2020-02-25 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-25 12:59 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-28 4:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-28 8:26 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-28 9:23 ` yyoncho
2020-04-26 12:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-27 4:41 ` yyoncho
2019-12-26 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-26 20:58 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-12-26 21:57 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-27 10:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 16:10 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-12-28 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 10:24 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 16:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 22:15 ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-01-01 12:41 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-01 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-01 18:42 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-02 7:55 ` arthur miller
2020-01-02 11:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-02 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05 1:33 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-01-05 4:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05 5:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-01-05 6:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-02 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05 10:00 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-01-02 16:52 ` Ergus
2020-01-02 17:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-11 14:10 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 11:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-04 18:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-04 19:00 ` Paul Eggert
2020-02-04 20:30 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-05 10:15 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-05 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-15 9:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-16 18:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-22 10:15 ` On elisp running native - deferred compilation Andrea Corallo
2020-02-22 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-04 19:34 ` On elisp running native Andrea Corallo
2020-03-04 20:21 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-04 22:16 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 19:33 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-06 21:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-07 9:09 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-07 9:33 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-07 9:41 ` Michael Albinus
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2020-03-07 17:57 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-07 18:49 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-03-07 19:19 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-03-08 20:55 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-03-08 21:29 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-03-08 21:37 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 10:54 ` Adam Porter
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2020-03-05 13:27 ` Andrea Corallo
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