From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:]) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="44343"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 20 17:19:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iXShw-000BM2-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:19:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXShv-0001ij-4K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:19:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXShi-0001ZM-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:19:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXShg-0002CL-Ti; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXShf-00040n-Pz; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:19:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (perry@piermont.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242496 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Like it or not, [the Emacs developers] get the priority right > > now. Being nice to new users is great, but until they become > > contributors and ease our workload, serving them can't be the > > priority. That is a valid position _for tools for Emacs developers_. The functioning of Emacs is a different area. There, we should put some effort into facilitin learning Emacs, by simplifying interfaces when we can. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)