From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:07:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="102105"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 31 03:08:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iPzsj-000QQf-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 03:08:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45974 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPzsh-0007aY-SC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45627) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPzsX-0007WS-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iPzsW-0004Pq-2y; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:08:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iPzsL-0003mO-Ed; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:07:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 29 Oct 2019 00:07:33 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241663 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It is not a matter of "defeat". We did not stick with the terms "frame" and "window" in the hope that other editors would follow us. We did so to avoid the problems that the change would cause. The idea of changing "window" to "pane" and keeping "frame" would eliminate the worst of the problems. Joke: 25 years ago, IBM called its version of the X Window System "PANES". So you could have AIX and PANES on your Power PC. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)