From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will Emacs be ever available for iOS? Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ftudj08q.fsf@nsacchetti.com> <87o98yixz5.fsf@nsacchetti.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546557675 20759 195.159.176.226 (3 Jan 2019 23:21:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 23:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ahmed.alharbi.sa@gmail.com, kalman.reti@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nahuel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=C3=BAs?= Sacchetti Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 04 00:21:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from listsout.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCIW-0005Cz-0J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 00:21:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58714 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCKc-0003QT-K6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:23:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCJM-0003NJ-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:22:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCJL-00049U-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:22:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCJF-0003pJ-44; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:21:53 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gfCJE-00086j-SP; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:21:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o98yixz5.fsf@nsacchetti.com> (message from Nahuel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=C3=BAs?= Sacchetti on Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:52:14 -0600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232154 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I have used Termux (only Android) before, it's open source and > free (as in "gratis") as far as I know. We judge a program morally based on whether it is free (libre) software. That's what makes it just, rather than unjust. See https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html. Whether a user paid to get a copy is another question, which we don't consider morally crucial. Whether it is "open source" is also a question that isn't part of our concerns, because that's not the same thing as free software. See https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html. Termius on iOS is surely not libre. On other platforms it could be. However, in this case we have no need to judge Termux or Termius. The crucial point about Termios -- if I understand right what you've said > Looks like a SSH/Telnet client and it requires other computer to work > (localhost or "in the cloud" system). -- is that if you run Emacs through it, Emacs will be running on some other computer, not on the iBad, and only _displaying_ via Termius. It may be easy to make Emacs support displaying via Termius. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)