From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:05:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0CCFABF4-0F2B-4DAA-9C8E-11E1254A325E@gmail.com> <87woqka4wg.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> <87sh17prvo.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87a7nfquzu.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ftx7pcdi.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539759889 9874 195.159.176.226 (17 Oct 2018 07:04:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 17 09:04:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gCfsq-0002RE-0B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:04:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34164 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCfuw-0003zz-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55411) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCfu5-0003zh-PH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCfu4-0004V2-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCftu-00046h-Ir; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gCftu-0002Mc-3m; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:05:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:27:06 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230434 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > AFAIK Emacs's undo info includes all the data needed for undo-tree, so > undo-tree could work on top of Emacs's normal undo system. Would someone like to implement this? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)