From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. (WAS: delete-selection-mode as default) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0CCFABF4-0F2B-4DAA-9C8E-11E1254A325E@gmail.com> <87woqka4wg.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> <53AEC704-1099-42F4-806C-6C0A903AB954@scratch.space> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539672254 14877 195.159.176.226 (16 Oct 2018 06:44:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 06:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 16 08:44:10 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ5N-0003ky-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:44:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56238 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ7T-0002vV-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:46:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6J-0002v8-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6F-0005Tr-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6A-0005GD-US; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6A-0002qG-Lc; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <53AEC704-1099-42F4-806C-6C0A903AB954@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:28:34 +1100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230408 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I have nothing in principle against switching to an Undo/Redo system. > > But there is an obstacle: finding a key for the Redo command. > C-< ;; for Undo > C-> ;; for Redo These are hard to type, since they require Shift. And they do not exist on terminals. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)