From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <877ejxsm18.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <874lf0oul4.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87zhwp7phi.fsf@toy.adminart.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536639834 7280 195.159.176.226 (11 Sep 2018 04:23:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lokedhs@gmail.com, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, charles@aurox.ch, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: hw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 11 06:23:49 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaDN-0001mz-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 06:23:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaFT-0005cT-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaFM-0005cJ-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaFL-0008Mx-Gz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaEj-0007na-EY; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:13 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fzaEj-0001Ui-5r; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zhwp7phi.fsf@toy.adminart.net> (message from hw on Mon, 10 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229660 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] ELi and I, the Emacs maintainers, are both opposed to making delete-selection-mode the default. Please don't do that. The stated aim of that change is to cater to newcomers at the expense of experienced users. That is a clumsy and unhelpful approach. If we think about it, maybe we can cater better to all users. See my other message for one specific idea. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)