From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:08:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536474092 14257 195.159.176.226 (9 Sep 2018 06:21:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 06:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 09 08:21:28 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyt67-0003av-MJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 08:21:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyt8D-0000Qi-G5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:23:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47211) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyt7F-00088h-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fystV-0004RA-3Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fystS-0004Ky-3t; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:08:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fystR-0006ob-S4; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:08:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 08 Sep 2018 14:08:32 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229542 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think you take it for granted that the non-delete-selection-mode > behavior of Emacs is fundamentally superior. "Fundamentally" is not what I'm talking about. delete-selection-mode is designed for the interface scheme where you select a region with the mouse. That's where we copied it from. In that interface scheme, delete-selection-mode fits. The traditional Emacs interface is that you edit with the keyboard. What fits that interface is that Backspace deletes one character. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)