From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm9d9zs9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87efe75v02.fsf@toy.adminart.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536302265 25041 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 06:37:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 06:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: hw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 08:37:41 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAOj-0006P9-0m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36934 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAQp-00025w-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAQj-00025i-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAQi-0003MQ-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAQg-00039y-70; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fyAQf-0004a7-UG; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 02:39:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87efe75v02.fsf@toy.adminart.net> (message from hw on Thu, 06 Sep 2018 02:29:01 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229369 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Why can they not edit efficiently with Emacs without learning the > movement keys described in the tutorial? What alternative would be better? Arrow keys require moving your hands away from the center. Moving the graphical pointer, even more so. > There is much more to learn about Emacs than key bindings for cursor > movement, and the movement keys in the tutorial may be amongst the least > relevant things that help efficient editing. Please give more detail. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)