From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Point" vs. "cursor" in documentation Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:32:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <037e45ba-ae4d-7aa7-bfa2-dd6a27aaff26@disroot.org> <863C33CF-82A6-43C3-8EE3-2082096C338B@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530743475 16465 195.159.176.226 (4 Jul 2018 22:31:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: brandelune@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 05 00:31:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faqIp-00049j-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49438 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faqKw-0002GY-66 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53143) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faqKh-0002CX-Jp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faqKg-0002as-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:33:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faqKZ-0002Te-4j; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:32:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1faqKY-0004DT-P3; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:32:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from John Yates on Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:13:22 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226946 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I had no exposure to ITS and so have no knowledge of its history > or the tools that it offered. Was TECO truly its first editor? Yes. PDP-10 TECO came before ITS. The PDP-10 was an upward-compatible improvement of the PDP-6. The AI lab first got a PDP-6 and wrote a TECO for it. The PDP-6 was not suitable for timesharing. So when it got the PDP-10, people immediately used TECO on that too, but they also wrote ITS. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)