From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517713597 31312 195.159.176.226 (4 Feb 2018 03:06:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 03:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: George Plymale II Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 04 04:06:32 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAd0-00068Y-Qa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2018 04:06:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAf1-00040K-Rj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:08:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39015) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAer-0003yq-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAeq-0002cX-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAee-0002XX-AQ; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eiAed-0001or-JX; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:43 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from George Plymale II on Fri, 02 Feb 2018 01:15:44 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222486 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > By using the word "openness," I wasn't specifically referring to the > open-source movement. I just meant that this policy decreases general > openness in the community since there is a certain gate, if you will, > which one must pass through in order to contribute to Emacs. Freedom sometimes requires a sacrifice, and this is one example. "Openness" is not a priority for us -- freedom is our goal. > (c) There is no process for decision making or transparency in GNU. Do you mean, that the contributors can't change the goals and the philosophy of the project. That's true, and it has to be that way. Most free software projects don't have a commitment to any particular political goal or philosophy. Those questions are simply up to the main developers of the project. They can change goals as thery see fit. GNU is different. It has a commitment to a particular political philosophy, and that never changes. People who expect the other way may be surprised when they see GNU is different. They expect to be able to argue about the basic goal and get it changed. However, the goal of GNU came before GNU, so they cannot change it. You have a right to criticize various aspects of GNU, but please don't use this list for that; that is off-topic here. This list is for developing Emacs. Explaining our assignment policies was just barely on-topic, but this is not. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.