From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some hard numbers on licenses used by elisp packages Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87shi4z7ps.fsf@bernoul.li> <87zic9zuof.fsf@bernoul.li> <877ezaajme.fsf@bernoul.li> <87shhw2xuv.fsf@bernoul.li> <87a844cmgx.fsf@ernst> <874ltwbzpl.fsf@bernoul.li> <87y3r8mh7m.fsf@floss> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501462200 7347 195.159.176.226 (31 Jul 2017 00:50:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 00:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, mats.lidell@cag.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 31 02:49:54 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dbyu7-0001V4-SR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 02:49:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56894 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbyuD-00036h-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47643) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbytd-00036W-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbytc-0002HM-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbytV-0002A1-9H; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dbytU-0002vg-RU; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:49:12 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y3r8mh7m.fsf@floss> (message from Karl Fogel on Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:36:45 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217171 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This FAQ item at the OSI explains this in more detail: > https://opensource.org/faq#free-software. What that says is not correct: open source and free software are not equal as subsets of software. There are a few programs whose source code qualifies as open but not free. In addition, tivoized executables made from free software source code are nonfree even if the source code is free. Many Android devices contain tivoized executables of Linux, for instance. https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html explains all of this carefully. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.