From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87b29866-51a6-05b5-c08f-94201bce3d89@online.de> <25b4532b-b2db-e813-7c4c-ee75770e98d6@cs.ucla.edu> <76369283-85b0-779d-0418-457abfd01db3@online.de> <7121c12e-29df-8710-9357-bc9be078804a@online.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500474917 8543 195.159.176.226 (19 Jul 2017 14:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 16:35:05 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq49-0001cX-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33666 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq4E-0004oz-VA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57035) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq3D-0004Ug-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq3C-0008Jl-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq39-0008I1-9H; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dXq38-0001fm-S8; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34:02 -0400 In-reply-to: <7121c12e-29df-8710-9357-bc9be078804a@online.de> (message from Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= on Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:20:31 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216878 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > For the latter: it looks like distributions of Emacs itself violated the > GPL, right? "Distributions of Emacs itself" is somewhat vague. I don't know what that includes, or what you mean by saying that the violated the GPL. I can only treat this as a rumor. If you're talking about the FSF's distribution of Emacs, strictly speaking an error would not be a violation. That is because the FSF is the copyright holder. Because we give this moral issue the highest priority, we would correct the error right away. > Now if a violation occurs, who will be the judge? The legal system judges legal disputes. It is not perfect, but we have already made it work for enforcing the GPL, and other developers have too. We have a published policy that our goal in dealing with GPL violations is to bring the violator into full compliance, and we try to do this first with private discussions. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.