From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving GNU ELPA Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r2xg2wra.fsf@bernoul.li> <87pod02swk.fsf@bernoul.li> <8760eqxdko.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87pocxogsk.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500435178 19102 195.159.176.226 (19 Jul 2017 03:32:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 03:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 05:32:53 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfjD-0004LD-NJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 05:32:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59638 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfjH-0003zW-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfii-0003zQ-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfii-0002H0-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfhk-0001J7-55; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dXfhj-0000VD-Ey; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:31:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <87pocxogsk.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216869 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > As I said, it doesn't avoid the problem, it just changes the nature of > that problem. I have a hunch that "the problem" you are talking about is not the same problem. I can't verify this, because you tallk about "the problem" tersely in the abstract, without stating concretely what problem you mean. But I am pretty sure it's not the one I am trying to avoid. As Stefan has said, at the moment, dealing with these > issues is, anyway, consider the problem of the upstream person. I would describe that as the "easy way out". You consider it a good option and recommend it as a solution, but I see it as opening a can of worms. Thus, for me it is "the problem" and I am looking for how we can _avoid_ it. > The > presence of push rights changes nothing if you do not use them. Alas, I don't follow -- that is rather terse, so I don't understand the point. I am not sure whether I would agree or disagree, if I understood. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.