From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: official Emacs Docker image Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <831tbxn5id.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaf1bvsb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87mvukq7gd.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <877fcyg5ah.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h9c0b6bd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878txa9zvx.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1483133853 28600 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2016 21:37:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 22:37:26 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4rW-0005MQ-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4rZ-00005p-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:37:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47883) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4qz-00005U-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4qy-0007Mt-TI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4qx-0007Le-Dg; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cN4qw-0003zT-Tf; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:36:42 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:53:59 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211006 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I see now that I was unclear: A Docker image is a self-contained tarball > containing a GNU/Linux kernel, necessary system software, and the final Emacs > executable that was built by the image recipe. Now it is coherent. > The Docker image contents, thus, can be entirely free software. Executing the > image on some platforms (such as Windows) may use proprietary software to > perform the execution (for example, VM provisioning software). I see how it makes sense to use this on Windows. But it seems absurd to use this on GNU/Linux. Why does anyone do that? How big would such a docker image be? I know that disks are getting bigger, but how many such applications could fit on a typical laptop? However, I don't see any ethical issue about making and distributing Docker images of Emacs as long as we get the details right: for instance, use an endorsed free GNU/Linux distro. Do you see any specific issues we need to consider? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.