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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: official Emacs Docker image
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:10:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1cMkm5-0001hh-9R@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2twft1oqm.fsf@newartisans.com> (message from John Wiegley on Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:34:09 -0700)

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Please forgive me for taking 6 months to respond to this.

  > You create a Docker build recipe by picking a "base" GNU/Linux distribution
  > (some variant of GNU/Linux that has an absolute minimum of included programs),
  > a recipe to install build tools, and then a recipes to build the target
  > program. There are many ways to optimize this so that the result is as small
  > as possible, but that's the basics in a nutshell.

  > If the FSF doesn't endorse Debian, then an alternate GNU/Linux base can be
  > chosen, and the build step crafted to suit it.

I think I follow this part.

  > The final "image" as they call it will be an Emacs binary, built on that base,
  > that users can download and directly run from any of the major operating
  > systems (Mac OS X, Windows, any flavor of GNU/Linux).

At this point, I am confused, because the statements seem to conflict.

Would the "Docker image" of Emacs _include_ the base system?  Or would
it be an executable Emacs package that could be installed straight _on
top of_ that base system?

If it is the latter, I don't see how it could run on any other
GNU/Linux system version aside from the one chosen as the base,
except using a virtual machine containing the chosen base system.

If it is the latter, then I see how it could run on another GNU/Linux system
in a virtual machine, but using the virtual machine seems like a drawback.

Can you please explain?


I do see how running on other systems by running GNU/Linux in a
virtual machine could make maintenance easier for us -- we could
perhaps delete some of our code used to support those other systems.


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-30  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-10 13:57 Move to a cadence release model? John Yates
2015-11-10 14:28 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 16:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 17:03     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11  0:17       ` Release process (was Re: Move to a cadence release model?) Stephen Leake
2015-11-11  0:24         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11  3:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 10:45           ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 15:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 23:06               ` bug policy (was Re: Release process) Stephen Leake
2015-11-12 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 16:39                   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 17:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 17:50                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 18:04                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 16:39             ` Release process (was Re: Move to a cadence release model?) John Wiegley
2015-11-12  8:19               ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-17  0:09                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-12  8:15             ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-10 14:32 ` Move to a cadence release model? Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-10 17:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 17:37   ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-11-10 17:44     ` Automate Emacs UI testing? (was: Move to a cadence release model?) John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:01       ` Automate Emacs UI testing? Ashton Kemerling
2015-11-10 18:02       ` Automate Emacs UI testing? (was: Move to a cadence release model?) Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 19:16       ` Automate Emacs UI testing? joakim
2015-11-10 19:37         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 16:59         ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 17:18           ` joakim
2015-11-11 23:27             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-12  2:26               ` official Emacs Docker image (was: Automate Emacs UI testing?) Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-12 15:49                 ` official Emacs Docker image Nic Ferrier
2015-11-12 21:01                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-11-12 22:31                 ` official Emacs Docker image (was: Automate Emacs UI testing?) Richard Stallman
2015-11-12 23:32                   ` official Emacs Docker image joakim
2016-07-06 15:22                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-07 21:56                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-08 13:36                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-09 16:54                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-09 23:04                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-10 14:25                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-12 22:45                             ` John Wiegley
2016-07-13 13:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-13 16:34                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-12-30  0:10                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2016-12-30  0:53                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-12-30 21:36                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-30 22:01                                         ` joakim
2016-12-30 22:08                                         ` John Wiegley
2016-12-31 18:25                                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-27 14:56                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-27 19:45                                               ` Filipe Silva
2017-01-30 14:36                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-30 17:10                                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-01-30 17:44                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-31  0:14                                                     ` Filipe Silva
2017-01-31 14:32                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-01  3:03                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-01 15:25                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02  2:53                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-02  5:13                                                               ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-02 14:21                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-03  7:00                                                                 ` Stefan Reichör
2017-02-03 11:18                                                                   ` Filipe Silva
2017-02-04  2:56                                                                     ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-03 13:45                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-03 21:59                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-03 23:38                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-03 23:54                                                                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-02-04  0:37                                                                           ` Filipe Silva
2017-02-04  1:12                                                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-02-04  1:32                                                                               ` Filipe Silva
2017-02-04 23:52                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-05  0:24                                                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-02-04 23:54                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-04  3:11                                                                         ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-04  4:13                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-04  4:47                                                                             ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-06 10:49                                                                               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2017-02-13  8:37                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-13  9:55                                                                                   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2017-02-14  0:48                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-14  2:07                                                                                       ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-14  2:04                                                                                 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-04 23:54                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-05  0:47                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-04 23:48                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-28  2:18                                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-21 15:01                                               ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-03-02 15:03                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-03 10:09                                                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-03-03 10:15                                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-03-08 20:30                                                       ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-03-13 10:03                                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2018-04-04 18:33                                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-31 22:04                                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-01-01  5:39                                           ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-01-01  9:03                                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-01-01 10:15                                               ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-01-06 15:56                                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-01-07 23:19                                                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-31  1:22                                       ` Yann Hodique
2016-12-31  2:08                                         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-28 11:06                                       ` Alex Bennée
2016-12-31 10:11                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-07-13 14:41                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-12 11:36         ` Automate Emacs UI testing? Mathieu Lirzin
2015-11-12 11:43           ` joakim
2015-11-10 18:20 ` Move to a cadence release model? Richard Stallman
2015-11-10 23:50   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-10 23:58     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11  1:55       ` John Yates
2015-11-11  9:02         ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-11 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 22:35         ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 15:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 11:27         ` Stelian Iancu
2015-11-12 16:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 16:44             ` Stelian Iancu
2015-11-12 16:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 15:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12  7:23       ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-12  7:37         ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-12 16:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  3:02 ` Stefan Monnier

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