From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwuogfb.fsf@gnu.org> <878trydrbo.fsf@red-bean.com> <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zikdl7oo.fsf@gnu.org> <83y3zxkwms.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480800707 23255 195.159.176.226 (3 Dec 2016 21:31:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 21:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 22:31:43 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHuF-0004l4-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:31:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52563 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHuJ-0005ef-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHtW-0005dj-OA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:30:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHtV-0000Fv-Tl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHtG-0008Qp-Me; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHtF-0003fv-Rl; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:30:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <83y3zxkwms.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:47:07 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209997 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > So you think that bugs should only be fixed by those who are > personally bothered by them in their routine Emacs usage? That would > leave most of the bugs unfixed. It would also mean that bugs reported > by users who are not programmers, or who cannot afford investing > enough time to learn the relevant parts of the Emacs code, will never > be fixed; if such users are bothered enough by these bugs, their only > choice is simply to stop using Emacs. The measure of real commitment to development of Emacs (or any free program) is willingness to fix bugs _because that's important_ and not just because they bother you. Daniel, after the portable dumper is done, would you like to learn some area of the display code where bugs are waiting to be fixed? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.