From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:28:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwuogfb.fsf@gnu.org> <878trydrbo.fsf@red-bean.com> <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480800593 20734 195.159.176.226 (3 Dec 2016 21:29:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 21:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 22:29:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHsR-0004GC-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:29:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHsT-0004e5-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHrn-0004cm-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:29:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHrm-0006rk-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHre-0006mp-Tc; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cDHre-0001Br-8I; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:28:58 -0500 In-reply-to: <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 03 Dec 2016 00:06:21 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209995 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > "Unenjoyable"? It's intolerable. It would mean that on my watch > something happened that I believe is detrimental to a project which I > took upon myself to improve, and I saw it happening and didn't prevent > it. Can you understand my plight? You have explained a possible drawback of the portable dumper: it could make maintenance more difficult some years from now. No one can doubt that this is a possibility. People do disagree about how much of a problem it is likely to be. Many of us don't expect it will make a big difference. You forecast that it could. But you've got to admit that it is uncertain. We're all making guesstimates about probabilities. So if we install the portable dumper, please don't treat it as a certain disaster. It would increase some problems quantitatively, and reduce other problems quantitatively. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.