From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480583937 3321 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2016 09:18:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 09:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 10:18:53 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNW0-0008Up-6J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:18:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNW3-0000N5-Vj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNVM-0000Mo-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNVL-0004tG-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNVE-0004nS-Al; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cCNVD-00009m-Nh; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:18:03 -0500 In-reply-to: <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:39:17 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209867 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I sympathize with your general point, but I don't think it is conceivable to make Emacs's C code much simpler or easier to maintain than it is now. Also, I don't think the portable dumper would increase the conplexity, not if it is written cleanly. To increase the _number_ of modules that look at Lisp objects with a given level of complexity does not increase the complexity. When changing the data structures, it is no harder to update 4 places than 3 places. It adds a little more work, but it isn't _harder_ work. I conclude that the portable dumper won't make it any harder to find people to work on the C code. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.