From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Web browsing (was Re: Concurrency, again) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:57:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <86k2dk77w6.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <9D64B8EA-DB52-413D-AE6A-264416C391F3@iotcl.com> <83int1g0s5.fsf@gnu.org> <83twckekqq.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvi9a3mh.fsf@gnu.org> <20161012165911.58437154@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161012173314.799d1dc5@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <8360owaj2s.fsf@gnu.org> <20161013092701.77461800@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161017105345.2f255760@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83y41nx8l6.fsf@gnu.org> <20161017123459.5ded9408@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161018162908.316a8b38@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476907217 10535 195.159.176.226 (19 Oct 2016 20:00:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 19 22:00:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwx1l-0008IN-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:59:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwx1n-0004s3-Cx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:59:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40599) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwwzn-0003nR-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwwzm-0000wh-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwwzd-0000pb-4n; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:57:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bwwzc-0004uZ-9y; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:57:40 -0400 In-reply-to: <20161018162908.316a8b38@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (perry@piermont.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208494 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We should not make Emacs a platform for running nonfree software > > sent from servers designed to snoop on people. > I agree, but that's predicated on first answering the question of how > to make Emacs into a good browser. Yes. But while this ordering of issues is a valid logical sequence, it would not be a good idea to address them sequentially. People are talking now about scenarios that would be instances of the problem, so it is time now to bring the problem into the discussion. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.