From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:00:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <86k2dk77w6.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <642fd4b4-8b1c-a537-5a5f-6940691ec4b9@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476090514 26078 195.159.176.226 (10 Oct 2016 09:08:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 11:08:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1btWZ7-0003tZ-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:08:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btWZ5-0005iC-JV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btWRl-0000h5-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btWRk-00072D-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45473) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btWRi-0006zm-VS; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1btWRh-00026y-4G; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:00:29 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Helmut Eller on Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:15:55 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208141 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Namespace systems do not fit well into Lisp. > The designers and users of the most important Lisps obviously disagree > with you: They are entitled to their opinions but I am not impressed by them. Common Lisp, Scheme (since R6RS) and Clojure all have either > namespaces or modules. Racket even has both. I implemented the Common Lisp name space facility on the Lisp machine, and I found it was inconvenient for actual use. It is better always to use the full name. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.