From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa645s65.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468300192 25435 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2016 05:09:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 05:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 07:09:44 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpx0-0000nk-2l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:09:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37436 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpwz-0003ZU-90 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpwp-0003XI-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:09:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpwn-0002Rg-SC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:09:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpw7-0002EJ-Nl; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bMpw6-0000Ux-5E; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:08:46 -0400 In-reply-to: <87oa645s65.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205566 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I use magit to create the structure for change log from the diff, > interactively during the commit process. It's a little clunky, but it > works okay. You can use Magit if you want to, but we shouldn't recommend Magit as part of our recommended procedures for GNU, or for Emacs, unless/until we can include it in Emacs. If we are considering development of programs other than Emacs, a recommendation that only works if the person uses Emacs has a drawback. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.