From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <5775A512.4020803@gmail.com> <8337ntvm2d.fsf@gnu.org> <5776B89F.60704@gmail.com> <83k2h5tbtv.fsf@gnu.org> <5776E1F4.3020709@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467504391 28178 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2016 00:06:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 00:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Scott Randby Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 02:06:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvW-0003DL-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 02:06:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40539 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvV-0003x9-64 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37019) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvB-0003rc-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUv8-0007Yf-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57456) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUv7-0007XF-0i; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUv6-0005Jd-48; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <5776E1F4.3020709@gmail.com> (message from Scott Randby on Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:34:44 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205095 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The issue at hand is how to develop new features so that they extend Emacs in a clean way that reduces the added difficulty of learning new features. You've explicitly said that you don't care about Emacs. You care only about Org mode. It appears that you don't want Emacs to be easier for users to learn. However, that is our goal even if you don't support it. We will have to disregard your views. We don't need to win you over. It appears you're not a major Emacs contributor; I don't see your email address in the log. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.