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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:09:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1bJ6cx-0002L7-0p@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h9c9lqll.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Fri, 01 Jul 2016 16:17:26 +0800)

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Another example of the same kind of lumping together of features is
Gnus.  Including a mail-sending mode in Gnus made Emacs complicated in
an unnecessary way.

If someone wanted features that Mail mode didn't have,
the best way to add them to Emacs would have been to add them to Mail mode.
The second best way to add them to Emacs,
in case they did not fit into Mail mode,
would have been to make an alternate mail-sending mode,
as an independent feature.

Being independent features doesn't mean they can't work together.
Rmail and Mail mode are both independent features, but they work
together through clean interfaces.

I think Hyperbole is such an example, so I asked Robert to separate
some of its functionalities before we install it.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-01 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15 20:55 Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) Robert Weiner
2016-06-15 21:53 ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole John Wiegley
2016-06-15 22:16   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16  0:39     ` John Wiegley
2016-06-16 14:41       ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 23:18         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-16 23:51           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-17  0:19             ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17  5:02               ` Tom
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` raman
2016-06-17 23:54                 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-18 16:47                 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-18 17:05                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-28 15:23                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-28 15:43                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-29 14:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 15:04                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-30 17:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30 23:02                         ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01  7:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01  8:17                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01  9:46                               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-01 20:53                               ` Tom
2016-07-05 18:24                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 23:01                                 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:53                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:41                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2016-07-02  7:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 18:38                             ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 19:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01 21:11                                 ` Tom
2016-07-02  6:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:13                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 21:34                                 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 21:58                                   ` John Mastro
2016-07-02  7:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02  9:13                                     ` Achim Gratz
2016-07-02 10:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02 10:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:07                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:57                                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:32                                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 15:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 18:08                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-03 13:59                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-03 14:19                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-05 18:02                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  9:00                                 ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-02  9:55                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:17                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 17:51                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-06-29 16:33                     ` Tom
2016-06-29 17:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-29 20:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 22:15                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-30  2:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-30 13:41                           ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 17:30                     ` Allen S. Rout
2016-06-29 20:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30  8:26                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-03 22:36                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 13:58                         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-04 21:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-05 22:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  4:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:29                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  7:12                                 ` Nikolai Weibull
2016-07-06 22:30                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-07 12:09                                     ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]                               ` <921c10a04c17462988c2821ed40582e7@DB5PR01MB1895.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-06  8:06                                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-07 21:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                   ` <33003e1e02b04d2db5ee60baff9a040f@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-08 12:23                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-09 16:56                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-10  6:47                                         ` chad brown
2016-07-10 14:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-05 13:11                               ` Etienne Prud'homme
2016-07-05 14:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 23:03                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  8:49                                   ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-07 21:54                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 10:44                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 16:16                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 17:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-07 22:01                               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                           ` <<E1bKBHv-0000lE-Bw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-07-04 22:26                             ` Drew Adams
2016-07-05 17:50                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-07-05 20:30                         ` joakim
2016-07-06 22:24                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02  7:18                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  8:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 15:49                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 15:53                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-17 13:31               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-18 18:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-18 20:31                   ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-19 11:49                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-19 12:36                       ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-17 15:27             ` raman
2016-06-16 23:57           ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17 15:53           ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-18 18:06             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-20 18:15               ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-20 20:36                 ` Tom
2016-06-28 15:28               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-16  8:44 ` Re:Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) tumashu
2016-06-16 14:07   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 15:38   ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole raman
2016-06-16 16:06     ` Robert Weiner

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