From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87fuw090k7.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83y49spuxt.fsf@gnu.org> <87pov4achc.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <20160308213635.GE6269@acm.fritz.box> <87pov3cur7.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <83a8m7o1ph.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457644954 20906 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 21:22:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: i.lohmar@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 22:22:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ae829-0005lG-PA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:22:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51386 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae829-0001aS-8i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae81d-0001Eq-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae81d-0005yv-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:21:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae81b-0005us-88; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ae81a-0000Ko-FN; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:21:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <83a8m7o1ph.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 09 Mar 2016 22:06:50 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201428 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That's pretty much what I meant. It may not contain the information you > > (and I) would like to see in it, but it is highly reliable in that it is > > the message that was used to describe the commit. > Yeah, it's a reliable lie. How helpful is that? "Lie" means a false statement intentionally made as an attempt to deceive. If we are talking about errors, it is harsh (and incorrect) to call them "lies". Let's just say "errors". -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.