From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Human-readable file sorting Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:41:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87povs41xg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bn7c3yms.fsf@gnus.org> <83si0npxtn.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0nlirx.fsf@gnus.org> <8360xjpq91.fsf@gnu.org> <87oabbli5g.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87pnjo.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1rqkdx1.fsf@gnus.org> <87lh6dzc16.fsf@gnus.org> <83wppwk1tv.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvqri9wl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456321427 8018 80.91.229.3 (24 Feb 2016 13:43:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 24 14:43:39 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZj9-0008SM-Mt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:43:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35962 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZj9-0003ZV-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:43:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48855) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZhP-0000Ry-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:41:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZhL-0001bu-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZhE-0001Xe-1B; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:41:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYZhD-00057C-Dg; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:41:39 -0500 In-reply-to: <83mvqri9wl.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:00:58 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200615 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I think we are talking about two different questions. > > You seem to be talking about low-level primitives. I am talking > > about how users customize the behavior of commands. > Fair enough, but which commands were you talking about, specifically? Any command that displays a list of file names. For instance, listing file name completions. In principle, list-directory and dired's subroutines ought to do this. If in fact they outsource the sorting to ls, then maybe this issue does not really exist -- maybe there are no real Emacs functions that need to worry about what order for sorting file names. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.