From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for removing obsolete packages Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83twmkkv16.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453345383 30745 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2016 03:03:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 21 04:02:55 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WP-0007U6-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 04:02:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45836 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WO-0001As-B7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34515) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WL-0001AK-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WL-0006tQ-0q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WG-0006pI-KU; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aM5WF-0007AB-SI; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:02:43 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Hyatt on Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:05:01 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198483 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Someone will have to, at the right time, make an > argument that the code should be removed, and be willing to advocate for > it. This is too high a burden for code that's been in obsolete for years. > I think the burden should be on people to advocate for it's continued > existence. (You mean "its", not "it's".) I disagree. Deleting something that people once used should not be semiautomatic. How about proposing some obsolete features for deletion and we can think about deleting them in Emacs 25. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.