From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Mac port Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <27810E5E-27B3-4AA5-9A6B-F3137D6F8506@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451455796 14489 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2015 06:09:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 06:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 07:09:47 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x8-0007y4-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:09:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x7-0008Pb-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45489) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x3-0008NO-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x2-0006B6-Ct for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x0-00068l-LZ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aE9x0-0004F5-5a; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:09:34 -0500 In-reply-to: <27810E5E-27B3-4AA5-9A6B-F3137D6F8506@gmail.com> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Tue, 29 Dec 2015 18:40:29 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197153 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > My personal opinion is that people do not switch to MacOS but > rather to Apple machines which are typically better built than > standard Intel based machines. It is the robustness of the > hardware that appeals to most users, not the OS. GNU/Linux works on those machines, so when you meet people who use them with MacOS, how about suggesting that they install GNU/Linux? > To have more people switch to a GNU/Linux system, you would have > to find a maker that builds high quality machines for a price > similar to what Apple offers It is true that that would help our cause -- true, but not useful, since we have no control and hardly any influence over manufacturers. Fortunately, the claim that that's the _only_ way is not true. It applies only to users who judge _only_ based on convenience. Those people are many, but what they are doing is folly (c'est fou). They are ignoring the issue of freedom and how their software subjugates them and mistreats them. Our overall goal is to free them from user-subjugating software (logiciel privateur). If we call their attention to this issue, some of them will be disgusted with what they have accepted until now, and some of them will change. I suggest showing people fsf.org/tedx, http://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html (..fr.html is the French translation), and http://gnu.org/proprietary. You can help spread this issue by making your own decisions based on freedom, and showing your friends and associates that you do. David Kastrup said it very well: > It's the "Open Source movement" which thinks it can "win" on those > terms. But you don't "fight" an empire by waiting until it > self-destructs before starting recruitment. We will not beat Apple at > their game. We can just offer a good way forward for those willing to > quit Apple's game. And what we can offer these days requires much less > determination to choose than it did at one time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.