From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove special requirement to disable startup message. Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878u4qdpd4.fsf@udel.edu> <20151222184106.GA5310@holos> <20151224014122.GA19782@holos> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451022544 24018 80.91.229.3 (25 Dec 2015 05:49:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mark Oteiza Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 25 06:48:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLFJ-0003HP-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:48:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34278 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLFI-0006g8-Lc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLF0-0006fa-DJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLEz-0003Dx-FM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLEw-0003DC-CE; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLEv-00025h-Mp; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:48:33 -0500 In-reply-to: <20151224014122.GA19782@holos> (message from Mark Oteiza on Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:41:22 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196812 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Your argument is based on a goal, uniformity, that is merely desirable -- not important. It is good to make things parallel, when there is no reason to do otherwise. We think about uniformity so that we don't careelessly make things non-parallel. But that's never important enough to change something which is the way it is for a real reason. > > So that sysadmins will think twice before disabling the message for > > their users. > Are there sites that disable the message? I found out about one; that's why I added that code. As to how many there are, I don't know. It is not worth the trouble to find out. That code works, and it causes no trouble to anyone _except_ a sysadmin who wants to disable that message for other people. I'm explaining the reasons for this code so people will understand. We're not going to change the code. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.