From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another iteration on the Emacs website Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:50:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87h9jpi890.fsf@petton.fr> <20151212001515.GD3192@boo.workgroup> <83bn9w6s46.fsf@gnu.org> <876104kn30.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449989475 13929 80.91.229.3 (13 Dec 2015 06:51:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: random832@fastmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 07:51:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Us-0004F2-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:51:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54166 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Ur-00023P-9o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Un-00022U-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Um-0001sX-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:51:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Uk-0001rl-Bx; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:50:58 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a80Ui-0003WV-Vx; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:50:57 -0500 In-reply-to: <876104kn30.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:55:47 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196203 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > "Emacs" preceded the GNU project. The Gosling Emacs rat-out prompted > Richard to write the GPL and sketch out the definition and needs for > GNU. The Emacs code base was rewritten to be free of third-party > copyrights and then restarted as GNU Emacs. I developed the original Emacs in 1976. I started working in GNU in January 1984. I started working on GNU Emacs in September 1984, Originally I thought I would use Gosmacs with some changes; a friend said Gosling had given him the right to distribute his version of that and he could let me redistribute it with changes. It turned out that Gosmacs needed big changes to replace its Mocklisp with real Lisp. The original Emacs had terms that do not qualify as free. They required people to send their changes to me. By the time of GNU Emacs I had concluded that such a condition was wrong, so I developed the idea of copyleft in early 1985. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.