From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:13:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <8737xuuw2y.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lhbmkrle.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87si5r22qh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443968090 1774 80.91.229.3 (4 Oct 2015 14:14:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 14:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 04 16:14:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik3s-0007eN-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:14:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik3r-0007LU-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:14:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik2v-0005zm-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:13:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik2u-0003UX-Ny for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56273) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik2t-0003T6-GZ; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:13:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zik2s-0006oY-RG; Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:13:46 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:43:07 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190885 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > So I will withdraw my withdrawal, and say that if the opinions of the FSF, and > the maintenance of Emacs by someone like myself, can co-exist without > involving ethical compromise by either one of us, I'm happy for us to work > together. I hope that we can do do that, because you would bring great ability to the job. We have a deep disagreement, and neither of us is likely to change position on the issue. However, that disagreement does not necessarily mean you can't be a maintainer, because all the GNU Project really needs from a maintainer is to engage to carry out the maintainer's responsibility. So it is comes down to your decision about that. In practice, the parts of the responsibility that you'd need to reconcile with your views are (1) accepting changes that work only on GNU or GNU-like systems without reluctance, so as not to hold back the advance of Emacs on those systems with contributions from people who may not use or care about Windows or MacOS, and (2) and cooperating with the things we do to present the GNU Project's positions in the Emacs distribution itself (for instance, some material in etc and doc). I think it would be best to have two maintainers or three maintainers. Stefan and Yidong worked well together as a team. The fact that they were two rather than three didn't hinder them from deciding. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.