From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <87r3p9fxm2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k2v0fiji.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20150619090225.GA2743@acm.fritz.box> <87fv5kfrfa.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83twtzhi9g.fsf@gnu.org> <877fqvfvby.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fv5jh8ls.fsf@gnu.org> <874mlzf71d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435063290 4197 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2015 12:41:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:41:30 +0000 (UTC) To: eliz@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 14:41:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVx-0005Yd-5p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:41:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45122 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVw-00013R-IA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVs-000137-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVr-0007Fu-PR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVo-0007Dj-8L; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NVn-0005TI-ER; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:41:11 -0400 In-reply-to: <874mlzf71d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187409 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Turnbull has misrepresented my views again: > You're telling *me*? Eli, it's the opponents like RMS, Alan, and > Drew who are dismissing all possible benefits without even trying the > change for long enough to confirm they can't adjust to the cost. Please read my own messages to see what I have said about this at various times during this discussion. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.