From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: string> missing? Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87oakxkvqw.fsf@petton.fr> <83zj4grgkc.fsf@gnu.org> <87sia8n8b5.fsf@petton.fr> <87zj4gu821.fsf@gnu.org> <83sia8rdkm.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp5crbfd.fsf@gnu.org> <837frjqzpk.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpzinfhy.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpzhc2i7.fsf@gnu.org> <83lhfxnxv0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1433636915 31075 80.91.229.3 (7 Jun 2015 00:28:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 00:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nandryshak@gmail.com, tsdh@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 07 02:28:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORn-0003nn-33 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 02:28:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORm-0004Ok-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORi-0004OI-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORh-0000qQ-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORd-0000nS-Bu; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1ORc-0001Pf-Bk; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:28:08 -0400 In-reply-to: <83lhfxnxv0.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:40:19 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187076 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Adding string> to Emacs proper is maybe additional 200 bytes but may > > save a multiple of its size when packages start using it instead of > > defining their own version each. For example, there are already > > gnus-string>, org-string>, and also org-string>=. And there are also > > quite many lambdas implementing string>, e.g., in emacs/lisp/help.el, so > > the addition of string> can in fact reduce the Emacs footprint if it > > gets used there. > All of that was true back when Richard made his decision. Those definitions did not exist in 1985. And on the very small machine, you could not load such big Lisp programs; they would not fit. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.