From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stash Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86sice77h0.fsf@dod.no> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428299552 1934 80.91.229.3 (6 Apr 2015 05:52:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 05:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Steinar Bang Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 06 07:52:26 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YezxP-0007UR-ID for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 07:52:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YezxO-00012Y-Nf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:52:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YezwB-0007OG-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YezwB-0005qK-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YezwB-0005qF-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YezwA-0002f4-FB; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:06 -0400 In-reply-to: <86sice77h0.fsf@dod.no> (message from Steinar Bang on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:31:07 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184998 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] One superiority of CVS is 'cvs up' reports its actions in a clear and concise way. Once you know what the letters mean, it is all straightforward. If it updates a lot of files, I often do 'cvs up' a second time, knowing it will show me only the files I have changed and might want to install. I have forgotten what Bzr's output looked like, but I recall that it was easy for me to see what conflicts there were. Then I used vc-dir to see what files I might need to install. Git outputs a mass of information. As a Git beginner I don't understand what part of it might indicate a problem. This is a serious concrete failing of Git. I think Git ought to have an 'update' facility, for simple usage scenarios, that would be just as easy to use as cvs update. In more complex scenarios, it could refuse to operate. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.