From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Kelly Dean <kelly@prtime.org>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:07:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1YNrEM-0002um-Rc@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ztn8ZsW3DW25UfYF01dIa4tfeGnt3eppq4qiD3uCLBR@local> (message from Kelly Dean on Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:22:54 +0000)
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> Saying there's only a global variable doesn't remove the absurdity of makunbound within the extent of a «let». Suppose foo is currently unbound. Then:
> (defvar foo 0) ; Now foo is bound to 0
> (let ((foo 1)) ; Now it's bound to 1
> (makunbound 'foo)) ; Now it's bound to unboundedness
> ;; Now it's unbound from unboundedness, and thereby rebound to 0
That seems right to me.
> You can't just say that makunbound in that case unbinds foo,
> because then the question arises, from what is foo unbound when
> the let-binding form exits? If foo were already unbound by
> makunbound, then there would be nothing left to unbind it from
> when «let» exits.
The word "unbound" is being used in an ambiguous fashion, but once you
see past that, there is nothing strange about what's really going on.
Maybe we should change terminology to get rid of the ambiguity.
The name 'makunbound' is the cause of it, but that is hard to change now.
We could at least explain it better.
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-20 2:54 Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Kelly Dean
2013-04-20 7:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-22 5:38 ` [PATCH] " Kelly Dean
2015-01-22 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 3:08 ` [PATCH] " Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 4:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 11:07 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 17:49 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-24 3:06 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-24 4:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-24 9:22 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-25 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-28 9:15 ` [PATCH] Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 9:23 ` [PATCH] Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 11:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-28 12:13 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-29 10:46 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-29 11:16 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 7:20 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 9:19 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 10:05 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 9:43 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 19:25 ` [PATCH] Run hook when variable is set Stefan Monnier
2015-01-29 8:20 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-29 8:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-29 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-30 7:34 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-31 9:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-31 20:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-02 5:40 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-02 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-03 19:56 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-03 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-05 3:10 ` [PATCH] (Updated) " Kelly Dean
2015-02-05 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-06 5:34 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-06 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-07 12:27 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-07 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 3:24 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-12 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-13 23:08 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-14 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14 22:19 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-15 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 2:22 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-17 23:07 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2015-02-18 3:19 ` The purpose of makunbound (Was: Run hook when variable is set) Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 5:48 ` The purpose of makunbound Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 8:51 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 14:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 18:53 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:36 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 0:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 10:45 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 23:51 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 9:35 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 2:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-20 0:56 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-20 9:02 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 15:41 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-21 5:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-22 0:32 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 8:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-02-18 5:15 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:35 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 6:48 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-21 14:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-21 20:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22 0:32 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 10:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-22 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-23 3:09 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-23 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 20:27 ` Proposal for debugging/testing option Kelly Dean
2015-02-24 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14 20:37 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Johan Bockgård
2015-02-15 19:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-15 19:53 ` Patches: inline vs. attachment, compressed vs. uncompressed. [was: Run hook when variable is set] Alan Mackenzie
2015-02-06 9:55 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 23:29 ` [PATCH] " Richard Stallman
2015-01-31 9:23 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-31 23:16 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-02 5:41 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-01 2:04 ` Alexis
2015-02-01 4:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-01 8:58 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-29 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-30 7:14 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 20:34 ` [PATCH] Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Stefan Monnier
2015-01-24 0:25 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 10:01 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-01-23 17:49 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-23 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 11:40 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22 5:41 ` Kelly Dean
2013-11-23 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-23 20:25 ` Drew Adams
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