From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <54B1B97E.9070204@gmail.com> <87fvbhk4ha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B456C8.6010506@gmail.com> <8761cbhvhb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B5AA10.7080606@gmail.com> <54B6F8EF.7020401@gmail.com> <54B8326B.90804@gmail.com> <54B889CC.9030401@gmail.com> <878uh3dquk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B9BA40.2070104@gmail.com> <87d26ddi4z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421593460 20323 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2015 15:04:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jcb62281@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 18 16:04:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOh-0002la-Ch for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:04:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOg-0000yq-SV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOe-0000wQ-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOd-0005hX-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOd-0005hR-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YCrOb-0006vZ-0n; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:04:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <87d26ddi4z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 07:40:44 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181402 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But I don't think we can terminally avoid dealing > with the fact that we cannot achieve interoperation between separate > free software applications without enabling interoperation with separate > nonfree software that does not trigger copyright. That is not valid as a general principle. Here's one very clear example to show that. It is perfectly legal to staticly link GCC and GNU Emacs and distribute the resulting binary, since they are both available under GPLv3. However, linking with nonfree software in that same way would be a violation. The issues about plug-ins are more complicated and more specipic than that putative principle would suggest. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.